tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post3411172626970064437..comments2024-03-02T05:12:54.410-06:00Comments on Lissie & Lilly: Lissie & Lilly: Cruise Day 2 - Fun Day on the SeaLilly Maidenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-22718036857082621442016-10-16T06:50:53.772-05:002016-10-16T06:50:53.772-05:00They have a Disney cruise to Alaska!They have a Disney cruise to Alaska!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-6130591273965659972015-01-25T13:45:22.332-06:002015-01-25T13:45:22.332-06:00Hi Uppy! Thank you for your advice and insight. I ...Hi Uppy! Thank you for your advice and insight. I will be writing the cruise line to express my thoughts at the performance. Our family is considering Royal Caribbean for our next cruise, so it's good to know there are more children on that line. I haven't heard of Celebrity or Silversea before so I will look into those as well. I'm constantly surprised by how many cruise lines there are. ^_^ Lilly Maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-21141069773889251372015-01-25T10:31:43.772-06:002015-01-25T10:31:43.772-06:00Uppy from AGFMB Have you considered sending your ...Uppy from AGFMB Have you considered sending your comments about the shows to the cruise line? They generally appreciate feedback and could obviously use the help.. I've never been on Carnival just Royal Caribbean, Celebrity,Silversea and Disney. I'm somewhat surprised at the lack of diversity amongst the cast. Thus far the performers on ships my family has been on are multiracial, to the point it may appear the cast was chosen to be diverse. As far as kid friendly Royal Carribbean and Disney of course there are lots and lots of families with kids all year long, even when school is in session. Go figure. Celebrity was largely adults and Silversea leaned toward older adults. It might have something to do with the time of year you traveled and also price point. It kind of makes sense that more expensive cruises would have fewer kids. I've enjoyed your comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-75070528810778541902015-01-21T20:56:26.078-06:002015-01-21T20:56:26.078-06:00That sounds like a very packed schedule but fun! I...That sounds like a very packed schedule but fun! I hope we'll be able to try a 7 day cruise next time (I'm really hoping for one to Alaska). Thanks for sharing your experiences with me! I've only been to Florida once and now I'm really tempted to go again because I would love to ride a glass bottom boat. :DLilly Maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-24685322455961185582015-01-20T17:32:10.319-06:002015-01-20T17:32:10.319-06:00We sailed on the Carnival Pride out of Baltimore M...We sailed on the Carnival Pride out of Baltimore Maryland. We went to Nassau, Bahamas and Freeport, Bahamas. It is boarding day then 1 day at sea then a stop the next morning (day 3) in Cocoa Beach, Florida then back on the ship before dinner. Sail all night to arrive in Nassau by lunch. Leave by dinner and day 5 finds us in Freeport. Short day there then a day and a half at sea to arrive back in Baltimore by lunch on day 7. We've gone twice.<br /><br />Our favorite excursions were a airboat/hovercraft through the swamp in Florida and a glass boat bottom boat in Nassau and snorkeling in Freeport. Love the food, the shows and the dance parties!Melangellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600124326787237312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-30499492424184168852015-01-20T08:52:07.813-06:002015-01-20T08:52:07.813-06:00They probably had non Asians playing the Japanese/...They probably had non Asians playing the Japanese/Chinese roles, and non Mediterraneans playing Italy and other such countries, and non Hispanic playing the Hispanic countries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-74564214074139088722015-01-19T13:13:46.570-06:002015-01-19T13:13:46.570-06:00That's interesting Melangell! Were you on the ...That's interesting Melangell! Were you on the Carnival Triumph as well? Or was it a different ship in the fleet? I agree it seems like they are just playing to stereotypes, which is frustrating because the more you play to them, the more you enforce them in people's mind and perpetuate the cycle of ignorance. <br /><br />We signed up to visit Isla Pasion (Passion Island)! I just posted the photos from that but it was really wonderful and so relaxing! I wanted to try out some more adventurous ones but that'll have to wait til the next cruise. ^_^ What excursions did you try?<br /><br />After taking the medicine, it was really wonderful to just sit on the deck (it was a cloudy day) and just daydream/read/study while the ship moved beneath me. Then the Men's Hairiest Chest contest happened... XDLilly Maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-28426283839695091452015-01-19T13:04:34.820-06:002015-01-19T13:04:34.820-06:00Monique B, I forgot to add earlier, but your thoug...Monique B, I forgot to add earlier, but your thoughts on just being glad Africa was included and not left out is exactly how my parents felt about the China/Japan performance. (I need to stop calling it Asian, because it was really just those two countries lol!) For them, they are so used to seeing Americans as white and black, and always felt like America treats Asians as foreigners and outsiders so anything that gives a nod is a step forward to them. But for myself, since I grew up here, I have a different standard and the bar is higher because although I have frequently felt myself viewed as an "outsider/foreigner" I know on the whole I am a minority in a country that was built off of minorities so I expect/demand more from society than a nod. I expect respect as well and it's jarring when that's not present.Lilly Maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-79051973022463408462015-01-19T13:00:13.874-06:002015-01-19T13:00:13.874-06:00Thank you for sharing your sentiments! I will be w...Thank you for sharing your sentiments! I will be writing the cruise to express my thoughts. As you said, some fixes are really quite simple, such as wrapping the vest in a different direction. I don't really expect them to change the whole performance any more than that but I hope it will at least bring the matter to their attention and it will influence how they plan future performances.Lilly Maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-35698873013520147672015-01-19T12:51:09.692-06:002015-01-19T12:51:09.692-06:00AJ, I didn't realize cruise ship performers ar...AJ, I didn't realize cruise ship performers are in a union with AEA! Thanks for bring that to my attention. Hopefully they will be able to hire people from different ethnic backgrounds for future performances i that is the case. It's quite disappointing to see not a single Asian or black face in the troupe when they are putting on performances from Asia and Africa.Lilly Maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-12260938076472959832015-01-19T12:49:08.560-06:002015-01-19T12:49:08.560-06:00Thank you for the advice Ally! I will write the cr...Thank you for the advice Ally! I will write the cruise line and express my thoughts. Some very simple changes such as wrapping the kimonos in the other direction can go a long way. I doubt they will change much beyond that, but I hope it will at least bring the issue to their attention and influence how they plan future performances.<br /><br />I'm actually stunned by the staff on the ship! There are workers from all over the world on the ship, and less than a handful of Americans. We have Italians, English, Australian, Philippines, India, Malaysians, Hispanics, Nigerians, etc. It's quite impressive. For the dance troupe though, I'm not sure if they contract a troupe and book them for a certain number of performances, or if they hire them out of a pool. Lilly Maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-80154993616831631682015-01-19T12:44:49.589-06:002015-01-19T12:44:49.589-06:00XD I would love love love to go on an American Gir...XD I would love love love to go on an American Girl cruise, especially a historical American Girl cruise (maybe it'll be a wooden ship from the Abbott's shipyard?). <br /><br />Monique B, I was really surprised how few children/younger guests there were! I thought the ship would be crawling with them, but there is definitely a more adult heavy crowd. (We can catch the 50th anniversary AG cruise. Your baby daughter will be the perfect age for you both to enjoy yourselves! ^_^)Lilly Maidenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758163542985764322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-7464455277875739582015-01-18T23:51:47.990-06:002015-01-18T23:51:47.990-06:00Too bad we missed it! Maybe they will have anothe...Too bad we missed it! Maybe they will have another in the future. Hopefully once my baby daughter is older we will be able to take a cruise together. (I'm pretty sure toddlers don't make good cruise guests! LOL)Monique Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-34111110964951216702015-01-18T19:22:40.867-06:002015-01-18T19:22:40.867-06:00Well they had this cruise when they turned 25 in 2...Well they had this cruise when they turned 25 in 2011 that I really wanted to go on (I was 9, give me a break!).Sharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01410289134616499241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-84858838088895796122015-01-18T18:35:26.287-06:002015-01-18T18:35:26.287-06:00I think they did the same or similar show on our C...I think they did the same or similar show on our Carnival cruise. I did notice the issue with a Chinese Dragon in a Japanese segment. I thought it strange but I guess it didn't bother me as much but then I have not studied those cultures in particular.<br /><br />I did think the show was full of generalities about all the cultures. Playing off "popular" beliefs of what they should be. Like all Irish wear green and have red hair. Annoying and playing to the dumbing down of society.<br /><br />Did you sign up for any shore excursions? We had some really fun ones. Of course, our neighbors don't do them but do things on their own or hire local guides and they think that is the way to go. <br /><br />Days at sea are my favorite. No need to rush anywhere. Of course, I don't get seasick. I love the movement of the ship and walking all over, eating, reading, etc.Melangellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600124326787237312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-69500321664156719612015-01-18T16:45:37.375-06:002015-01-18T16:45:37.375-06:00Cruise ship performers are in the same union as al...Cruise ship performers are in the same union as all stage performers, Actor's Equity (AEA), which is a national union, so they had a pretty large pool to choose from. AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930265400725345255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-61354879591569264652015-01-18T11:09:19.695-06:002015-01-18T11:09:19.695-06:00It's hard to see things like this and I agree ...It's hard to see things like this and I agree that a note to the company expressing your thoughts is a good idea. The kimono error is quite a blatant one and an easy fix next time they make new costumes. They could do better.Kiki's Kornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04394557383733323438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-39980903297432963432015-01-18T08:08:03.608-06:002015-01-18T08:08:03.608-06:00I think you should send the cruise line a letter a...I think you should send the cruise line a letter and express your thoughts. Possibly some cultures don't want to work on a cruise ship in the middle of the ocean and it's sailing out of a southern US port so likely the labor pool is going to be more Caucasian and I think maybe performers have to be part of a performer's union and I can't think of the name of it right now so maybe there are just more Caucasians in the union??? My ancestry is Hungarian so I always have to deal with the Hungarian Vampire thing. I don't worry about it since most people know that all Hungarians are NOT vampires.<br />Ally from AGFANS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1918295946141079753.post-24865374975436393102015-01-18T00:55:43.940-06:002015-01-18T00:55:43.940-06:00First, I must say that there should totally be an ...First, I must say that there should totally be an American Girl cruise one day! Second, I appreciate you being concerned about the African dance. I'm just happy Africa was included and not left out. Small victories... :)Monique Bnoreply@blogger.com